TACTICS TO THWART A NONVIOLENT CAMPAIGN AGAINST URANIUM MUNITIONS
Roger Helbig, Air Force Lt. Colonel, reportedly pressured sponsors, conferees, delegates
| by Cliff Kindy (CPT, Stop-DU) One week before the Depleted Uranium (DU) Conference at East Tennessee State University, Roger Helbig, Lieutenant Colonel, United States Air Force,sent scathing emails to the organizers and speakers, saying, among other things, "You really have been had [with these speakers]." He went on to discredit them systematically. One of the speakers, Cathy Garger, reported receiving sixteen messages from Helbig. Helbig also made two phone calls and sent two emails to the director of the Church of the Brethren Newsline, which had sent out the announcement of the conference. Helbig was attempting to divide the speakers and planners and force them to spend time defending themselves rather than just telling their stories. Apparently, other pressures from behind the scenes also entered this drama. An encampment across from the Aerojet Ordnance plant, a primary DU manufacturer, was supposed to happen in conjunction with the conference. Two landowners, who in previous months had offered their land for the Stop-DU encampment, withdrew those invitations in the last days before the conference. Then, the final day before the event, the professor who had arranged the space for the DU Conference on campus received a call on her personal cell phone from the Dean of East Tennessee State University. He questioned why she had opened her classroom to an "outside" group. The implication was that she should rescind the offer. As planners assess the timing of the conference, they can draw the conclusion that some people are feeling uncomfortable with the growing visibility of DU issues and are pulling out the stops to make the Stop-DU campaign falter. Their tactics failed. The conference proceeded on schedule. Sixty activists and interested visitors from at least nine U.S. states and Canadian provinces attended the six-hour teaching/organizing conference. [Members of Christian Peacemaker Teams' 18-26 May delegation that participated in the 19 May DU conference are Russell Attoe and Judy Leurquin (Madison, Wisconsin), Bill and Genie Durland (Colorado Springs, Colorado), Ron Forthofer (Longmont, Colorado), Ron Friesen (Loveland, Colorado), Anne Herman (El Paso, Texas), Kirsten Romaine Jones (Toronto, Ontario), Cliff Kindy (North Manchester, Indiana) Murray Lumley (Toronto, Ontario), Jane MacKay Wright (Providence Bay, Ontario), Wes Rehberg (Chattanooga, Tennessee), Michael Smith (Gibson City, Illinois) and Dick and Gretchen Williams (Boulder, Colorado).] |
Helbig also bombarded me with negative e-mails after publishing articles related to depleted uranium in the Daytona Beach News-Journal: http://www.news-journalonline.com/special/uranium/
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Well Audrey, you are a reporter, not an activist. Your readers deserve an accurate story with no biases. Your story had a clear bias and was not accurate. That is lousy reporting and yes, I have reported that to your boss. I intend to do all that I personally can do to make the American public aware of the massive fraud that is being perpetrated by a small group of very active anti-DU crusaders who get dupes like Bronnie Meadows of East Livingston, Tennessee aka Bugs to do their bidding. You, Audrey and your paper owe your subscribers the truth and not the anti-DU crusader line. To start with, I want you to send Axel Gerdes a sample of your urine for him to analyze for DU. Now, you have never been in Iraq, but I will bet you that he will tell you that you have been exposed to DU, especially if you submit the sample as being from a soldier who just returned from Iraq. Now, what will that tell you, that the test is so sensitive that it can not tell the naturally occurring uranium that every single one of us human beings has in our body from DU. That is a very significant finding and I hope that they US Attorney responding to the false claims of the NY National Guardsmen who filed suit in the Eastern District of New York Federal Court will take heed of that. It is very unusual that Gerdes test results have not been obtained by anyone else. It is also very interesting that Asaf Durakovic, former Colonel in the Army Reserve, a Major on active duty, which for a doctor means he served probably 2-4 years active duty, is closely connected to Axel Gerdes in Germany and Durakovic has spouted pure scientific nonsense on CNN. He claimed one atom of uranium is harmful, when any scientist knows that there are thousands of atoms of uranium in every single human being. There is natural uranium in every one of your backyards. If you want to learn about radiation go to the RADSAFE list - it is international, but the majority of its members are highly educated professionals. They will gladly explain if you actually want to learn, but don't harangue them like some of the anti-DU fanatics have done. http://lists.radlab.nl/mailman/listinfo/radsafe Go learn .. you might really be surprised if you keep your eyes open.
Roger Helbig
the devil incarnate himself
well that's what you all think anyway just because I am just as passionate a citizen as you are .. and determined!
unlike the DU frauds, though, I don't get paid to do any of this -- I don't shill for anyone and I don't even drawing my retirement check until August!
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Roger as I know about him,is a TROUBLE MAKER,Doesn't WANT THE TRUTH TOLD,AND TELL LIES HIMSELF...
i trust Cathy,Mary and others in our group to tell me,and to teach us more about D.U.
Thank you for letting me be a part of this grop...
bugs
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And yet when Audrey interviews someone who actually has knowledge on the subject, the horrible Internet reputation of DU kind of fades away.
http://www.news-journalonline.com/special/uranium/DUCRAIG041507.htm
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The Headline on this page is false -- it says Air Force Lieutenant Colonel - that falsely implies that I am still in the Air Force - I retired from the Reserve in 1994 and have had no official contact with the Air Force except for recently receiving the papers I need to return to collect retirement pay in August. I want the headline changed. Christian Peacemaking Teams should espouse Christian principles. Chief among those is one of the Ten Commandments - Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness - the people who addressed you at the Tennesee conference bore false witness yet you welcomed them among you. You did not do due diligence and check out Mohammed Daud Miraki, con artist from Chicago, Douglas Lind Rokke, con artist from Champaign-Urbana or Cathy Garger, fictional writer from Washington DC suburbs in Maryland. That is not following Christian principles unless one of them is to always shear the flock like a number of televangelists do every day. Are you a bunch of fakes or a bunch of Christians? Your call - throw out the fakes and only use the truth. Of course in the anti-DU crusade you have joined you may find that all there are are fakes. And if you really want to read some Christian writing, I have some delightful material from Bronnie Meadows aka Bugs. I can not post it here because I am sure you do not allow obsenity, but I am quite willing to share it with any of you privately.
Roger W Helbig
rwhelbig at g mail dot com
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Rokke's "love" of acting overwhelms any regard he may have of the truth. The differences between a con artist and an "actor" are those of semantics and motivation. Both are engaged in portraying fantasy as truth to an accepting, non-critical and largely self-selected audience.
The key difference is the willingness of the actor to acknowledge that he is a substitute for reality.
Virtually every public pronouncement spouted by Rokke, either on the subject of DU or on his own "qualifications" are either patently false, or contain so little of the truth that it is unrecognizable.
Check for yourself - I did. This is not a contest of personalities - let the facts speak for themselves, but take the time and minimal effort to actually check on the claims.
Here is one you can easily check - Virtually every time he speaks, he is introduced by some "host" as being a "PhD Physicist" or other claim to advanced physics education.
Mr. Rokke knows this is not true, yet this "honorable military officer" leaves the introduction uncorrected when he replies.
I guess "PhD, Education Vocational Technology" doesn't have the "punch" needed give his ignorant opinions the clout he feels they should have.
For the record, Mr Rokke has earned:
'75, W. Ill. Univ, BS (Physics).
'86, UI, Urbana-Champaign, MS (Educ Voc Tech).
'92, UI, Urbana-Champaign, PhD (Educ Voc Tech).
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rEAD THE TRUTH,NOT LIES TOLD BY PEOPLE WHO DOESNT WANT THE TRUTH TOLD ABOUT DEPLETED URANIUM..
CLICK AND LISTEN,,OR COPY AND PASTE
http://www.wsmv.com/news/13461427/detail.html?treets=nash&tid=2658781233813&tml=nash_7am&tmi=nash_7am_1_07000306082007&ts=H
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I don't know what Bugs is trying to refer you to now; I do know that Bronnie Meadows aka Bugs does not know anything about depleted uranium and has suddenly gotten religion and is flooding the list with anti-DU crusader materials he obtains from Romi Elnagar who clearly has become deeply biased against her native land since converting to Islam. Elnagar, Garger, Nichols dominate her list AmericanDUST and before that DeadlyDUST. They purge anyone from the list that dare question them in the least and Elnagar has reposted stuff that even the anti-DU crusaders know not to be true. I intend to work on the Christian Peacemakers because first and foremost they are Christian and inherent in that faith is an obligation to be truthful and not bear false witness. It is time to expose the business of anti-depleted uranium. If it were not paying well, the crusade would have died off long ago. I also intend to obtain and have analyzed the entire filing by Matthew et al v/US in the US District Court of Southern New York. They need to be exposed either as frauds themselves or as just dupes of the frauds. That will take some doing, but I intend to put a lot of late night and weekend effort into finding the real answers.
Roger Helbig
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Roger, you seem so sure of yourself about the harmlessness of "processed uranium" - not the same as in nature - likely in soluble compounds; and so sure that everyone who speaks against the manufacture, deployment and use of DU is a fraud. I ask - why do friends that I know who have been to Iraq and Afghanistan - I have Mohammed Miraki's book - all witnessed the increases in childhood leukemia and other cancers plus birth defects. They were not lying and I agree that there are other possible toxins, but why do these people and those opposed to the manufacture, deployment and use of DU have to prove that it is harmful. The Precautionary principle which you must be aware of tells me that it is you who have to prove to me that it absolutely does no harm before anyone is allowed to use it. I know the world doesn't work that way but it should.
Explain to me why - if every chemical substance that is used by militaries and others and that is released into the environment through faulty storage or dumping - is safe, why are there over 1300 Superfund sites in the U.S. some of them with radiactive contamination - eg Starmet/Nuclear Metals in Concord MA - with 11 million people including 3-4 million children living within one mile of the sites. The U.S. has a toxic mess on its hands and I think the evidence is a lot stronger that DU is one of the problems than that it is a benign substance.
Also, as a Christian who believes what Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount - that not only are we not to kill our brother or our enemy, but not even to have bad thoughts about them. How could I as a Christian even contemplate the use of such weapons as DU, even on the so-called battlefield, let alone what it may be doing to civilians.
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I like the way that Murray says prove the negative. I also like the way that he dodges the issue by adding other superfund sites. Nowhere does he ask Miraki to prove that what is in his book is true. Nowhere does he ask why Miraki who collects money on the net, had his non-profit organization shut down by the State of Illinois. I don't know who Arthur is, but I will bet that his knowledge of the basic science is pretty minimal because he believes in fairy tales.
The question I know the answer to is that the people I have named are not who they claim to be. That can be established. What also can be established is that none of the veterans from the Gulf War who were hit by DU schrapnel has had any disease as a result of carrying those DU fragments in their bodies for over 15 years. What can not be established because the Privacy Act protects certain records from disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act is what exactly is the cause of ailments that some veteran, perhaps sensing that there is gold in uranium, claim to have due to probably non-existent exposure to DU.
Far as the Sermon on the Mount, I never recall it saying that a lie is OK. The anti-DU crusade is founded by liars and kept going by liars. I certainly do not believe anyone who lies about who they are and what they claim as educational and professional experiences.
Roger Helbig
PS .. you were invited to write me, not to pillory what I say in public. Why is it that you anti-DU fanatics roam in packs and can't stand by yourselves?
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Everyone knows the game of pathetic Helbig already. Check out how he was discredited in Hawaii when he tried his tactics there: http://forums.honoluluadvertiser.com/viewtopic.php?t=840
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Everyone knows nothing. No one has ever discredited anything that I have posted. If you are so sure of yourself, use a real name and provide a contact. The first article posted about me by Bob Nichols, quoting Doug Rokke, who is a total fraud - First Lieutenant Rokke, Army Reserve, never was the Army's DU expert - he just makes a great stage presence maybe because he loves acting .. unfortunately being able to act has absolutely no relation to telling the truth. Now, come out of the shadows, show yourself and take responsibility for your slurs and slander. I will go visit the Hawaii site tomorrow evening. It is nearly 4AM and time to go to bed since I am supposed to be at work in a few hours. Why do I do this, because the lies that you have been fed will come back to bite you and me in a big way. I don't want to die nor have you die because someone has been convinced by your crusade to set off a nuclear bomb in the US.
Roger Helbig
(don't you think if I had something to hide that I would not use my real name - when I became a whistleblower in 1992, I decided my name and reputation was all I had to convince people that I spoke the truth and had the facts .. had the Democrats retained control of the Senate in the 1994 election, I was to appear as principal witness at a formal Senate Subcommittee Hearing on fraud and corruption in government contracting .. that is my primary area of expertise, but that includes ferreting out frauds and the anti-DU crusade is full of such people, all of whom are making their living off of you who think that you are just doing it out of compassion .. publicly, they praise you, but when they get home they thank you for being such suckers. Do the same thing I did, submit a Standard Form 180 and ask for the releasable military records of Douglas Lind Rokke, Major, US Army Reserve, retired - you will get the same records I got .. then you will begin to believe.
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Dude,
This is cyberspace. And everyone here does know about you, check it out mister 4 a.m.
http://www.theecologist.org/archive_detail.asp?content_id=748
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Snooky or whatever - just because you think you are hep and that you can find something on the net does not make it true. I need to wait until after the 1st of July to make some of my reply comments, but basically, none of your fellow netziens has a clue who I am or that this is basically a "hobby", a deadly serious hobby because there is an enormous amount of deliberately false information posted on the net about depleted uranium. It is a purified metal; it oxidizes, it is not particularly water soluble and it is so dense that when uranium burns, the smoke falls downward. Even CPT has been principally influenced by frauds. Miraki is a fraud. All you had to do was read his former web page with a critical eye and ask him some very pointed questions. His response to the questions got a non-profit in California to sever their ties with him
The link I have provided indicates that they have severed their relationship.
Now, I would like to know why you who delight in maligning me are too chicken to just write to me .. I don't bite .. I may be blunt, but I have never bitten anyone.
Roger Helbig
rwhelbig@gmail.com
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I want to make one more comment .. just because something is a non-violent campaign does not mean that the campaigners really know what they are doing. I have found in the CPT training literature that you have totally got it wrong. If anyone wants to discuss that, write to me -- I have all my research support at home and I do not like to write in the tiny blocks provided by this blog .. I am grateful, though, that it permits reply and correction. Most of the anti-DU crusaders do not permit that - you disagree with their party line and you are gone. That's why you will find absolutely no dissent on a list like AmericanDUST run by Romi Elnagar, Cathy Garger, who spoke to you (have you read all of her stuff? -- are all of you also into the flat earth society movement called 9/11 Truth -- that's where Garger met Elnagar and somehow both of them think that Bob Nichols is the guru about DU when all he does is parrot what he is told by Doug Rokke and Leuren Moret, both of whom lead you to believe that they are much more than they really are. I have made Rokke the first object of my research because he and Nichols slandered me. They can thank themselves for my dogging their every step ever since. Nichols should be stripped of his Project Censored Award by the California State University Board of Trustees because Nichols writes outrageous science fiction and they gave him an award for investigative reporting. Anyway, just because something appears on a million blogs, don't believe it unless you can personally verify that it is true. In DU, that means going to your local college and talking to the Chemistry, Physics and Geology Departments and if you believe the cloud of dust going to England bit that Chris Busby got in a UK paper, then visit the Meterology Department as well. Learn the actual science, don't get sucked in by the science fiction and don't support the con artists and their books, DVDs and lectures. Save your money for people who really need it and make them get a real job.
Roger W Helbig
rwhelbig@gmail.com
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It has been claimed that Roger Hellbig has been having a secret affair with British journalist Felicity Arbuthnot.
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Guess this shows you how perverted the information on this web page has gotten - so Michael are you with "The Onion" or just out to lunch?
Roger
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So Roger, are you denying that your having an affair with Felicity Arbuthnot?
It has been claimed that you two have been seen in passionate embraces in public places.
Did this start before or after her article appeared in the Ecologist, because it is now being said by an Ecologist source that they are going to produce a "kiss n tell" on you.
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The reason I tried to stop this conference has nothing to do with the "non-violent" aspect that Rehberg leads his headline with -- it has to do with stopping liars from having a platform to spread their lies. This "conference" had Douglas Lind Rokke, who claims to have been the Director of the Army's DU program, which he was not, to be dying of DU exposure, which he is not, and to have had fellow team members (he also has claimed in the past to have led the team, which he did not) also be dying or already have died from DU exposure and they have not. Cathy Garger was also there and she is a know nothing parrot on the net. She parrots anything anti-DU (which has not been used in any quantity since 2003 since the "insurgents" and Al Quaeda in Iraq have no tanks or armored vehicles) that appears anywhere on the net. The conference also excluded anyone who actually knows anything about radiation, radiation poisoning, uranium, the degree to which uranium is found in the earth's surface and in each and every one of our bodies, or the subject at hand, depleted uranium. Such a misinformation conference had no business being held at a public, tax payer funded, university. What I would like to know is why all of you are lemmings who really do not care whether you have the facts or not. Now that I know the names of the Christian Peacemaker Teams, and I surely do not think that Jesus Christ would have lied for any reason, I am going to attempt to contact each one and make them aware of the facts so that they will stop spreading lies.
Roger Helbig
rwhelbig at gee mail dot com
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